"There is no secret ingredient "
-- Kung Fu Panda
"Reach for the sky!"
Hate to think our survival is based on federation around a figure. (thinking outside the box)
In short, we need to have a locomotive figure replacing DAZ figures (which means, a figure having the same level of support!), else Poser will curl up and die, no matter how good it is.
But the best way would be to use a figure already supplied with poser. Like the P2 or 3 figures P4 Possette would be a good one to learn on. I like the idea of a rigging workshop. Let me know when it happens. I'm in.
"Why would DAZ have problems with that?"
I'm just naturally cautious/paranoid. The rigging had been done by some person at daz and would messing with that involve some sort of copyright infringement? Or, pushing that boundary some: supposing we find that if we'd add an edge-loop or two of mesh, suddenly this figure would suddenly move and deform much more naturally. Now I'm really pushing the envelope, aren't I?
ETA: Oh, and heck, I'd be in that too! What an incredible workshop would *that* be! We could play it safe and go with MakeHuman or whatever... guess there's no limits as to what you do to that bird, hey?
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As long as you are not Passing out anything. Just showing how to do something. Everyone can get a free modeler to add an edge loop to thier legal copy of the mesh. Poser users have been tweeking JP's on DAZ/Zygote figures for as long as I've been around. It's what we do. Or at least it was until the click and render trend became the forefront of the DS/Poser communities.
Agree that a figure that anyone can get thier hands on easily would be best.
I hope if and when you decide on this class you announce it in other forums, there might be others that would like to join in on this rigging class. I am not looking to become an expert but I do have a curiosity about some of it. But I do stop at the point of shorting out my circuits for a hobby.
Click and render, digging deeper, learning all, learning nothing, everyone is different in their individual use and priorities of this software. I hope everyone enjoys what they are doing because besides needing more money and security (at least here in the us) we all need a lot more enjoyment in this life.
Me? I am going to try to make a pair of pants for Brad, when phantom3d graciously releases him. I will see if I can get the pants to move with him naturally. :-) Cool!
"Death cannot stop true love; all it can do is delay it for a little while." The Princess Bride
"I thought you want to be an engineer when you are older.-Why you choose now Astrophysik?"-
"because engineer have to learn so much mathematik"! ---Zoé Boyer, 7 year old
Wow, Mike... I think this idea is really gonna fly, you know? I've actually downloaded (going to install next) the MakeHuman software. The key point being: no posing of this figure is possible because MakeHuman doesn't rig. Blender does and Poser does, tho. This is open-source, the ideal sort of figure to learn on, because we don't have to remove any rigging already there.
Is this an idea with merit?
I'm currently developing dynamic mesh:
and so that's a bit my obsession, but it can easily be transfered to figure rigging. Yeah, the dress is pov - leaves a lot to be desired - but it's all a WIP. So, rigging is next!
Are all the open source humans by Sixus1 already rigged? My participation is questionable depending on when you do this, just thinking of alternatives. Are you rigging a full figure?... or a clothing item for that figure?
Well, I'd like to learn to do both, LilWolff, but I reckon it might make sense to sort-of get some idea of what's involved with just doing like clothing, to start with. I have no idea what I'm getting into, so it seems like a good idea to start small.
Hi robynsveil, lilwolff, I am uploading a video tutorial right now, it is about an hour long and starts with the basics. It looks like it is going to take about 7 hours to upload!!! I dont know why so long. I could not put it on youtube because it is an hour long.
The prop we will be working with is here: http://poserplace.phantom3d.net/foru...f=2&t=1&p=2#p2
once the video is uploaded I will post a link. Its only 300 mb dont know why it takes so long to upload. Know of any faster upload sites for video that are free?
Not offhand, Mike - Laurie might do, tho (if she happens in here). I'll just wait patiently... or try to wait patiently, anyway. Which figure are you using? Or does it matter?
I am using a simple human shaped prop it has been grouped but not named or rigged, so it was sorta perfect for a basic tutorial. It is on the site I linked to above if you want to take a look just download and unzip, install into Poser runtime.
Thank you, Mike, will do - really looking forward to this!
OMG phantom3D! How wonderfully nice of you! This is sooo exciting!
If you need I could try to throw it up on my site if you are having any trouble putting it anywhere. If your around now I hope to be on for a wee bit more but will catch you later if Irene doesn't take our electric down.
@ladonna hope you are still with us?
I can't find a pm for everyone?
OT and personal: for now my participation will be limited to as I can. I just got home from major surgery, my computer time and energy level is limited and I have other yucky un-fun stuff I have to do.
I will follow best I can and save, save, save everything for when I possibly have more energy and less brain fog.
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Hope you recovery well from your surgery, LilWolff - that can really mess up a lot, being on meds and then wanting to sort things out in a new area of Poser (to us!)...
Thank you robynsveil for kind well wishes. LOL my brain has always fogged even before this and without meds. This is like adding a couple of extra thick layers of pea soup on top of what was there.
This will be a good challenge for the mental side and so kind of everyone to do. I am so excited because I clicked once with Phantom3d's teaching style.
Which ever by you, have a great day!
Sorry to hear of your troubles. Hope you will mend quickly
Well I did get it uploaded to 4shared. The other two vidmeo and megavideo dropped it half way through (no resume)
Will have a better video link in a few in full HD
And the prop and materials to follow along here: http://poserplace.phantom3d.net/foru...f=2&t=1&p=2#p2
This first few tutorials will be usable in Poser 6 through Pro 2012. When we get to the weight mapping however Poser Pro 2012 will be needed to follow along.
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